Flourishing After Adversity
If you've experienced grief, illness, loss, or life-altering setbacks—and you're ready to reclaim your joy—this podcast is for you.
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Flourishing After Adversity
S2:E18 Fear vs. Anxiety: Why Knowing the Difference Changes Everything
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Fear vs. Anxiety: How to Tell the Difference and Take the Next Right Step
Host Laura Mangum Broome explains that fear and anxiety are different experiences requiring different strategies, using her own experiences with bilateral breast cancer, chemotherapy-related congestive heart failure, and waiting for a heart transplant to illustrate both. Fear is a response to a real, present threat and is specific; anxiety is a response to a perceived or future threat and is often vague and driven by “what-ifs.”
Laura offers three steps to identify which you’re facing—name it out loud, look for the source, and check the timeline—and three steps to move through it: use a control map (what you can/can’t control), regulate the nervous system with paced breathing (inhale 4, hold 4, exhale 6), and take one micro-step in the next ten minutes. Additional tools include treating anxiety as a messenger, using a daily worry window, and separating facts from the story.
00:00 Fear vs Anxiety Intro
00:34 Show Welcome and Free Guide
01:23 Why One Strategy Fails
02:26 Personal Story Cancer to Transplant
03:58 Clear Definitions That Matter
04:48 Identify What You Feel
06:39 Move Through It Three Steps
08:56 Three Bonus Anxiety Tools
12:26 Try This Guided Exercise
13:12 Recap and Encouragement
14:21 Closing and Call to Action
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Fear vs Anxiety Intro
Have you ever been in the middle of a hard season and felt this overwhelming sense of dread, but you couldn't quite name why? Or maybe you knew exactly what was scaring you, but the fear felt so big you just froze. Here's what most people misunderstand: fear and anxiety are not the same thing, and trying to fight them with the same strategy is like using a hammer to fix a broken window. You end up with more of a mess.
If you've ever felt this way, then today's episode is for you.
Show Welcome and Free Guide
Welcome to the Flourishing After Adversity podcast. I'm your host, Laura Mangum Broome. If you've ever been knocked down by life--grief, illness, loss, or unexpected change--you're in the right place. Here, we turn setbacks into stepping stones because healing, growth, and joy are not out of reach. They're available to you even in this season.
Before we begin, if you ever feel overwhelmed by negative thoughts after a setback, caught in loops of worry, self-doubt, or mental exhaustion, I created a free resource just for you called Reframe the Spiral: 5 Quick Coping Strategies to Shift Negative Thoughts and Reclaim Your Day. You'll find the link in the show notes.
Why One Strategy Fails
Let me ask you something. Have you ever tried to manage fear and anxiety the exact same way and wondered why it wasn't working? Most of us reach for the same tool no matter what we're feeling. We distract ourselves, push the feeling down, or try to rationalize our way out of it, and sometimes that works, but a lot of the time it doesn't.
The reason? Fear and anxiety are different experiences that require different responses. When we treat them as the same thing, we end up frustrated. We think we're doing something wrong. We think we're not strong enough or resilient enough or healed enough. But the truth is, we just haven't been given the right map. Today, I want to give you that map because here's what I know from my own life. When you can identify which one you're dealing with, you stop fighting blind, you stop wasting energy, and you can finally take that right next step.
Personal Story Cancer to Heart Transplant
I want to share something personal with you because I know what it's like to experience both fear and anxiety, sometimes in the same day.
When I was diagnosed with bilateral breast cancer, what I felt was fear. It was immediate, specific. I knew exactly what was threatening me, and my mind and body responded accordingly. But after the diagnosis, after the surgery was scheduled and the treatment plan was in place, something else crept in. A vague, relentless dread that showed up at two AM and whispered, "What if? What if the chemo doesn't work? What if I don't make it? What if my kids grow up without me?" That was anxiety.
And then when I developed congestive heart failure from the chemotherapy, fear again. Real. Present. My body was actually failing. That was not a what if, that was happening. And later, when I was waiting for a heart transplant, I experienced both at the same time, fear and the real risks, anxiety about everything I couldn't control.
I tell you this not to overwhelm you, but to show you I've lived in both places, and I learned, sometimes the hard way, that they need different responses. Naming what I was feeling didn't make it disappear, but it gave me the right starting point, and that's what I want for you today.
Clear Definitions That Matter
Let me break this down clearly. Fear is a response to a real, present threat. It's your brain saying, "Something is actually happening right now, and I need to deal with it." Fear is specific. You can name it. You can point to it.
Anxiety is a response to a perceived or future threat. It's your brain saying, "Something might happen, and I can't stop thinking about it." Anxiety is often vague. It lives in the what-ifs. It's your mind running ahead of your life. Both are real. Both deserve your attention. But they need different tools. So the first question is never, "How do I fix this?" The first question is, "Which one am I actually dealing with?" Once you know that, everything gets clear.
Identify What You Feel
Let's talk about how to figure it out. I want to share with you three steps to identify what you're feeling. Step one, name it out loud. The moment you feel that tight chest, racing heart, or wave of dread, pause. Ask yourself, "Is there something real and present threatening me right now?" If yes, that's likely fear. If it's a future scenario playing on repeat in your head, that's likely anxiety
This sounds simple, but naming it out loud or writing it down does something powerful. It moves the feeling from your nervous system to your thinking brain, and that's where choices live. You cannot make a good decision from inside a spiral, but you can make one from a place of awareness.
Step 2, look for the source. Fear has a clear source you can point to. I'm afraid because my test results come back tomorrow. I'm afraid because I just lost my job. Anxiety is harder to pin down. I just feel like something bad is going to happen. I can't shake this feeling that things are about to fall apart. Try to trace your feelings back to its root. Write it down if you need to. The clearer the picture, the clearer your next step.
Step 3: Check the timeline. Here's a question that cuts right to it. Is this happening now or am I living in the future moment that hasn't arrived yet? Fear lives in the present. Anxiety lives in the future. If your mind is three weeks ahead of your life, you're most-likely dealing with anxiety, and the most powerful thing you can do is bring yourself back to today. What is actually in front of you right now? Just today. Just this moment.
Move Through It Three Steps
Now that you can name what you're feeling, you're ready for the most important part, doing something about it. Identifying fear or anxiety doesn't make it disappear, but it gives you the right starting point.
These next three steps will help you move through it instead of around it. Step 1: Use a control map. Grab a piece of paper and draw two columns: what I can control and what I cannot control. Put every worry, fear, and what-if into one of those columns.
Then choose one item from the can control side and take action on it today. This is one of the most direct ways to move from paralysis to progress. Fear and anxiety lose power when you start moving, even in a tiny way. You are not built to carry what's outside your control, but you were built to act on what's within it.
Step 2: Regulate your nervous system first. Here's something most people skip, and it makes everything harder. You cannot think your way out of a fear or anxiety spiral when your body is still in fight or flight mode. Before you try to problem solve, slow down your breathing. Try this. Inhale for four counts, hold for four counts, exhale for six, and do this three times.
This signals safety to your nervous system. It gives your thinking brain a chance to catch up. You're not avoiding the problem. You're creating the conditions to actually deal with it. There's a big difference.
Step 3: Take one micro step. Big feelings make us want big solutions, but big solutions feel overwhelming, which keeps us stuck. Instead, ask yourself, "What is the smallest possible action I could take in the next ten minutes that moves me forward?" One text, one deep breath, one journaled sentence, one honest conversation Micro-steps build momentum. Momentum builds resilience. And resilience? That's how you flourish even when you're afraid.
Three Bonus Anxiety Tools
You now have a real framework to work with, but I want to leave you with three more tools because fear and anxiety are layered, and the more equipped you are, the better you can handle whatever shows up.
Tip one: treat anxiety like a messenger, not an enemy. Most of us try to fight anxiety or push it away, but anxiety is actually information. Instead of asking, "How do I make this stop?" Try asking, 'What is this anxiety trying to protect me from?' Getting curious about it rather than combative moves you from reaction to awareness.
When you stop treating anxiety as the problem and start treating it as a signal, you gain access to what actually needs your attention." Here's an example. You feel anxious every Sunday night before the workweek. Instead of distracting yourself with Netflix, you pause and ask, "What is this telling me?" The answer might be that a relationship at work feels unresolved or that your schedule is too packed to feel sustainable. Now you have something actionable instead of just a restless night.
Tip two: schedule a worry window. Anxiety expands to fill whatever space you give it, so give it a limit. Set aside ten to fifteen minutes at the same time each day, your worry window. When anxious thoughts creep in outside that window, write them down and tell yourself, "I'll deal with that at four PM." When four PM arrives, sit with those worries intentionally, then close that window. This keeps anxiety from hijacking your whole day, and it trains your brain to stop treating every what-if as an emergency. Over time, you may even find that many worries have resolved themselves by the time your window rolls around.
Here's an example. You're having lunch with a friend and a worry about a medical bill suddenly hijacks your thoughts. Instead of spiraling, you jot it down and tell yourself, "I'll think about this at five PM." You stay present with your friend, and at five PM, you spend ten focused minutes problem-solving it. Then you move on.
Tip three: separate the facts from the story Fear and anxiety both love to add a storyline to reality. Here's how to call it out. Write down what is actually true, the bare facts. Then write down what your mind is adding to those facts. " My doctor wants to run more tests," is a fact. "Something must be terribly wrong," is a story. You don't have to dismiss the story. You just see it clearly. When you separate the two, you stop letting the story make decisions for you. Most of the time, the facts alone are manageable. It's the story layered on top that creates the spiral.
Here's an example. Your adult child hasn't called in a few days. The fact? They haven't called. The story your mind creates, "Something's wrong. They're pulling away. I did something to upset them." When you see the story for what it is, you can choose a clear next step. Send a quick text instead of spending three days in an anxiety loop.
Try This Guided Exercise
Try this exercise today. Grab a notebook or open your notes app and work through these prompts. Number one: Right now, am I feeling fear or anxiety? Name it. Don't just describe it. Two: If it's fear, what is the one thing within my control that I can act on today? Three: If it's anxiety, what is the story I'm adding to the facts? Write the facts alone. What does that look like? Four: What is one micro step I can take in the next ten minutes? You don't have to solve everything today. You just have to take the next right step.
Recap and Encouragement
Let's recap what we've covered today. Fear is a response to real, present threat. Anxiety is a response to a perceived or future threat. They need different tools. To identify what you're feeling, name it out loud, look for the source, and check the timeline. To conquer it, use a control map, regulate your nervous system first, and take one micro step. Bonus tips: Treat anxiety like a messenger, schedule a worry window, and separate facts from the story. Today's exercise: Name it, trace it, and take one step.
If fear or anxiety has been running your life lately, I want you to hear this. You're not weak for feeling it. You're not broken for struggling with it. You're human, and you are in the right place. The fact that you're here listening, learning, and choosing to grow, that's resilience in action. You're right where you need to be. Growth happens one step at a time.
Closing and Call to Action
Thank you for listening to the Flourishing After Adversity podcast. If this episode helped you, please share it with three people in need of hope.
You can also leave a review or connect with me at iCope2Hope.com. The link is in the show notes. And don't forget to download your free guide, Reframe the Spiral: 5 Quick Coping Strategies to Shift Negative Thoughts and Reclaim Your Day. The link is in the show notes, along with other free resources.
Until next time. Adversity can make you bitter or better. Choose better! You've got this!